Coronavirus | Discussion

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  1. wilenty

    wilenty MDL Senior Member

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    @gorski Look what your country-friend saying about your arguments:
    https://rumble.com/vg4inv-michael-yeadon-full-interview-planet-lockdown.html
     
  2. MrG

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  3. Yen

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    #3423 Yen, Oct 24, 2021
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    Eh, what?
    Even because the vaccines are globally limited if you would only vaccinate the vulnerable people you could even vaccinate more vulnerable people and by that safe more lives, keep medical capacities unoccupied.
    Shouldn't be that hard to get.

    If there would be real and world wide solidarity those nations who got tons of vaccines already would have said...OK we have vaxxed our vulnerable people the rest of the jabs is for you until all vulnerable people are vaxxed worldwide.


    I am not able to calculate irrationality, therefore there can't be miscalculation.
    I cannot calculate it since there are lots of different of irrationality
    For instance staying obese while clearly knowing that obesity is risk factor number one, not having balanced nutrition, vit levels, or smoking or not relying on repurposed drugs, etc,etc...

    Mass vaccination is a big mistake. And time will tell if my arguments come true or not. There are studies supporting that, better said I got my arguments based on those.

    If you continue to exert escape pressure by mass vaccination you always push the virus away from current vaccines. And if their effectiveness become low enough to the recent VOC the probably to get severe will raise one day as well.
     
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  4. gorski

    gorski MDL Guru

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    Oh, boy.... You have no idea just how irrational you can be...

    On the other hand, look at all your u-turns and... maybe...

    Although... :rolleyes:
     
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  6. vladnil

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    #3426 vladnil, Oct 25, 2021
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    Look at the latest Luc Antoine Montagnier
    He said that by the middle of the 21st century, humanity would be gone.
    The reason for the contaminated slurry of vaccines and tests!

    ITALIAN PRIME MINISTER REVEALS EUROPE'S PLANS FOR 2026! THE MICROCHIP ECOSYSTEM.
    Look it up in Italian sources.
    You will have an epiphany!

    https://thecovidblog.com/2021/10/24...-span-after-vaxx-mandates-in-cuyahoga-county/
    Three Ohio judges “die unexpectedly” in nine-day span after vaxx mandate in Cuyahoga County

    2021-10-26_114016.jpg
    "Coronavirs, Deaths. 50,365 total deaths in Great Britain.

    Small print: Death from any cause within 28 days of a positive covid test."
     
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  7. zen45

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    This world has to many experts that give their opinion's that contradict each other and confuse the public ! its hard to sift through the BS to get real facts !
     
  8. Mr.X

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    Then the public should start thinking and use common sense. This common sense should lead the public to ask:
    1. Why authorities and doctors are pushing mass vaccination.
    2. Why other experts say, in reputable scientific papers, these new covid vaccines have extremely dangerous side effects.
    3. Why authorities and other experts don't publish scientific papers supporting claimed vaccine's safety and efficacy.
    4. Confusion arise, alright then apply precaution principle. Don't get vaccinated for the time being. Vaccines are substances that are going to get in my precious body. That's a BIG DEAL.
    5. Need to get informed in depth about what's going on with this pandemic before I put anything into my sacred body.
     
  9. Yen

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    #3430 Yen, Oct 27, 2021
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    "Deaths in Children and Young People in England following SARS-CoV-2 infection during the first pandemic year: a national study using linked mandatory child death reporting data"
    2/Million comorbidities included.
    https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-689684/v1
    Picked up by MSM:https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57766717

    Compare risk of myocarditis in Israel due to Pfizer vaccine:
    "Myocarditis after BNT162b2 mRNA Vaccine against Covid-19 in Israel"
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109730

    If you are male and between 16-19 years 13.6 / 100,000, means 136 per million

    Deaths (CYP): 2/ Million

    The probability to get myocarditis due to Pfizer vaccine is 68 times greater than to die from COVID when you are male and 16-19 years....

    The only difference is that this compares 2 different cohorts (Israel to England) and CYP is generally <18 years.

    Also to be considered: Administration of the vaccine = 100%, chance to get infected is unknown pecentage.
     
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  10. Mr.X

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    #3431 Mr.X, Oct 27, 2021
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    See how grave this is all you people reading?
    Especially to one pink speck of dust floating around here? :p
     
  11. Mr.X

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    Non-neutralizing cross-reactivity of antibodies against Spike and HIV

    Dear members of Akasha Community: A few months ago in a couple of talks I explained the relationship that vectorized vaccines (against SARS-CoV-2) that were based on human Adenovirus 5 (Ad5) could have towards the increase in the risk of contracting HIV whether there was exposure to the virus, particularly in homosexual men or in risk groups. This risk has been known for years, and in the talks I presented the references and explanation about it (for example, to name just one: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32156-5/fulltext).
    Little has been said about this, actually because most of the vectorized vaccines targeted other adenoviruses, and did not use Ad5. For example, Astrazeneca used a chimpanzee adenovirus, Johnson & Johnson used human adenovirus 26 (Ad26), Sputnik used Ad26 in the first dose and Ad5 in the second. Only Cansino used Ad5 (there are several as yet unauthorized vaccine candidates that are based on Ad5). The point is that it is not known if the fact that they use Ad26 as a vector (or adenovirus from non-human primates) does not cause the same increase in the risk of becoming infected with HIV when exposed. It is an area of study that is still little explored.

    This time I share with you the link to a recent study (it was published in September 2021) that reported non-neutralizing cross-reactivity between the antibodies generated against Spike of SARS-CoV-2 and an envelope protein of HIV-1 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8479463/). This cross-reactivity occurs due to the amino acid similarity in some regions of both proteins (Spike from SARS-CoV-2 and gp41 from HIV-1).

    The problem is that the antibodies are not neutralizing. This means (something the authors omit in the discussion, but should not be ignored by those who know about immunology) that it cannot be ruled out that the presence of said antibodies against Spike, in people infected with HIV-1, could increase infection within the body of such people, since by not neutralizing the HIV-1 virus, then they can lead to a phenomenon known as ADE (antibody-mediated or dependent increase). It is a possibility, and the responsible thing is to study it - especially considering the number of people who are having antibodies against Spike given the vaccination - and investigate if it is possible that this phenomenon occurs, directed towards the increase in the infection of cells by the HIV virus -1 in already infected people. The generation of non-neutralizing antibodies is not trivial. There are many viral diseases for which the occurrence of ADE has been detected due to these non-neutralizing antibodies (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19022319/). In this case, if it occurs, it would be an ADE caused by anti-Spike antibodies that also recognize (and therefore bind) an HIV-1 protein, but do not neutralize the virus.

    I try to summarize the relevance and implication of this study: if what they found in their animal model occurs in humans, there would be a high risk of increased HIV-1 viral load in infected people due to those antibodies against Spike. It may not happen, but given the results of this study, it would be responsible to study it in the human population.

    I hope this information is useful to you and I send you my regards, Karina AW

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  13. Yen

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    Thanks for that.
    The link to the Lancet study there is https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(21)00448-4/fulltext

    Fluvoxamine belongs to my 3 favorite repurposed drugs I have handy myself at home.
    Fluvoxamine is (besides of other SSRIs such as Fluoxetine) a sigma-1 receptor agonist which is the assumed mechanism that helps at COVID.
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28315270/

    Happy to see my choice gets more and more confirmation.
    IVM, Fluvoxamine, Budesonide.

    IVM: Early treatment until full recovery.
    Fluvoxamine: In addition to IVM if neurological issues occur (also tinntus and loss of smell)
    Budesonide (lung inflammation / inflammatory state).
     
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    #3435 vladnil, Oct 28, 2021
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  15. Mr.X

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    Scientist Whose Wife Was Injured by COVID-19 Vaccine Tells FDA: "Please Do Not Give This to Kids"

    @COVID19Up: The U.S. FDA advisory committee on Tuesday (Oct. 26) endorsed Pfizer’s COVID vaccine for children ages 5 to 11, despite strong objections raised during the meeting by multiple scientists and physicians.

    Brian Dressen, Ph.D., is one of the scientists who testified during the 8-hour hearing.

    Dressen is also the husband of Brianne Dressen, who developed a severe neurological injury during the Utah-based portion of the U.S. AstraZeneca COVID vaccine trial in 2020. After being injured by the first dose, Brianne withdrew from the trial.

    During his 3-minute testimony, Dressen told the FDA advisory panel Pfizer’s vaccine “failed any reasonable risk-benefit calculus in connection with children.”

    Dressen said:

    “Your decision is being rushed, based on incomplete data from underpowered trials, insufficient to predict rates of severe and long-lasting adverse reactions. I urge the committee to reject the EUA [Emergency Use Authorization] modification and direct Pfizer to perform trials that will decisively demonstrate that the benefits outweigh the risks for children. I understand firsthand the impact that you will or will not have with the decision you’re going to make today.”

    https://t.me/COVID19Up/11353
     
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    11 States Sue U.S. Government Over COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate for Federal Contractors

    @COVID19Up: Eleven U.S. states with Republican governors sued the Biden administration on Friday (Oct. 29) seeking to block a COVID-19 vaccine mandate for federal contractors, arguing it is unconstitutional and violates federal procurement law.

    A joint lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District Of Missouri by 10 states, Arkansas, Alaska, Missouri, Iowa, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Dakota, South Dakota and Wyoming. Texas filed a separate suit on the same issue, and Florida filed one on Thursday.

    The lawsuits described the mandate as "sweeping in its scope" and "unconstitutional and unlawful," citing a constitutional amendment on state powers and federal laws on government procurement.

    The mandate "is an abuse of power and we won't stand for it," Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds said.

    "It will only worsen the workforce shortage and supply chain issues that hinder our economic recovery and it furthers the unprecedented government intrusion into our lives," Reynolds added.

    https://t.me/COVID19Up/11379
     
  18. gorski

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    Heh, as if we don't know it was rushed...

    What was the alternative, btw?!?

    As in rational alternative?!?

    At the time, not now!
     
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