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  1. Yen

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    #4721 Yen, Feb 8, 2023
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    Yeah well, data from China....*cough*... not even some westerners are / were able to count properly.

    I rather focus on scientific findings.:)
    Do you remember my concerns about molnupiravir?
    Guess what?
    The last sentence turns out to be true, except the little end! :D

    "As result there is a viral mutation which causes the new virus TO BE EVENTUALLY MORE VIRULENT AND DANGEROUS"

    Identification of a molnupiravir-associated mutational signature in SARS-CoV-2 sequencing databases | medRxiv
    Antiviral treatments lead to the rapid accrual of hundreds of SARS-CoV-2 mutations in immunocompromised patients | medRxiv
    Could a popular COVID-19 antiviral supercharge the pandemic? | Science | AAAS

    Simplified. The virus mutates systemically (G to A and C to U exchange) NOT epidemiological in those taking Molnupiravir to a potentially more dangerous variant and potentially 'supercharges it'...

    Yeah well, it is no wonder that a drug which is designed to CAUSE mutations by delivering fake material at viral replication (to RdRp) can also lead to more potent copies rather than to 'disabled' copies.
    This is playing with fire!

    Molnupiravir should also be withdrawn immediately!
    It could cause variants which will be more dangerous again!!!
    And besides of that, it does not work either.

    Here another 'signal' why the vaccines must disappear (NIH study)
    Study confirms link between COVID-19 vaccination and temporary increase in menstrual cycle length | National Institutes of Health (NIH)
    If one should say hmmm it's nothing serious...well, the entire human reproduction system is behind that. Fact is those vaccines must not do that nor was it expected!

    OK, and some 'other' news.
    Maybe a future vaccine. And guess what..it's a nasal vaccine
    This also belongs to "Learning from India" as I titled a post above...

    Immunogenicity and Tolerability of BBV154 (iNCOVACC®), an Intranasal SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine, Compared with Intramuscular Covaxin® in Healthy Adults: A Randomised, Open-Label, Phase 3 Clinical Trial by Chandramani Singh, Savita Verma, Prabhakar Reddy, Michael S. Diamond, David T. Curiel, Chintan Patel, Manish Kumar Jain, Sagar Vivek Redkar, Amit Suresh Bhate, Vivek Gundappa, Rambabu Konatham, Leelabati Toppo, Aniket Chandrakant Joshi, Jitendra Singh Kushwah, Ajit Pratap Singh, Shilpa Gaidhane, Krishna Mohan Vadrevu, BBV154 Study Group :: SSRN

    Why do I post all those sources. Well, they confirm my intuition. But what's far more important to me. I understood the mechanisms correctly and categorized their meaning properly and rightly.
    I never was good / convinced with the i.m. vaccines nor with Molnupiravir and I pleaded if there's a future for COVID vaccines, then nasal ones...:)
     
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  2. gorski

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  3. ancestor

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    Ursula von der Leyen sued by New York Times over refusal to disclose Pfizer boss texts
    US newspaper will argue the European Commission president broke EU rules by withholding the correspondence
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...-sued-new-york-times-refusal-disclose-pfizer/

    Glad to see this happen and I hope those SMS are made public and von der Leyen will lose her job over this, alongside a hefty fine.
    Whatever the subject of trade is - how can it be, that private SMS are a right means of negotiating a multi-million dollar deal with public EU money... ?!
    The little EU civilian must not make cash payments above 10.000 EUR (preventing money laundering lol), but her highness von der Leyen can just write some SMS and later delete them and no one from EU officials thinks this is wrong, especially concerning such vast sums?!
     
  4. Opulent_Maelstrom

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    Oddly enough only one report so far but still the evidence is there

    Ocular Surface Erosion after Suspected Exposure to Evaporated COVID-19 Vaccine
    karger.com/Article/FullText/520500
     
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  6. gorski

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    It's much worse than that, it seems:

    Since Ursula @vonderleyen
    speaks of 'traditions' in backing #NATO's war on #Russia, let's look at her own family traditions, embedded in the #German aristocracy and its participation in the #Nazi regime. https://covertactionmagazine.com/2023/02/17/ukraine-hawk-who-heads-european-commission-has-a-nazi-pedigree-she-does-not-want-you-to-know-about/

    So, PhD not "earned", jobs and positions in those machines not earned, deals made in those jobs highly questionable, as are many of her connections, family and otherwise but...

    AFA the SMS fiasco: how come no one thought of the fact that by law the providers must keep those on record, despite the fact she may have deleted them on her phone OR that her interlocutors still may have them?!?

    One law for us prols and quite another for *them*. Capitalism regressing/turned back into Feudalism! Time to skin it alive, like it skinned Feudalism alive - and rightly so!!!
     
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    >One law for us prols and quite another for *them*. Capitalism regressing/turned back into Feudalism! Time to skin it alive, like it skinned Feudalism alive - and rightly so!!!

    I would like to sugest a new forum section for morons .......... for threads like trhis .......... where the footfolk / slaves can continue to happily sabotage themselves and the whole of society ............... by playing divide and rule ......... and ...... bread and games ................ doing the capitalist diry work for them ............. who needs dictators .......... and harsh measures .......... and control ........... and force ............. when the slaves f**k themselves ......... and as one sees in this thread .......... slaves celebrating themselves sabotaging themselves .......... scoring ego points spreading backward s**t
     
  9. gorski

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    Wrong drugs, m8... again... you had much better ones.... go back to those, please... Much nicer for the old nerves...
     
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  10. gorski

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    According to The Economist, there are now 20.5 million excess deaths attributable to the pandemic. At present, there are over 10,000 excess deaths globally each day, making COVID-19 the world’s third-leading cause of death. In the European Union countries, excess deaths in December were 19 percent higher than before the pandemic, with Germany experiencing the highest increase at 37 percent.

    https://t.co/COhWPehidT

    A view from the other side of the political spectrum...
     
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    Unfortunately, COVID-19 lost all reasons to wreak any more havoc… so it's time for the WHO to consider that pandemical disease for eradication!
     
  12. Dark Knight

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    The COVID death numbers are not and never have been accurate.
    It is a known fact that people that have died from other things while having or after having COVID but COVID not being a contributing factor have had their deaths listed as having died from COVID, so the numbers are skewed and are not as ; "staggering" as one may think.

    Hospitals and doctors have been known to do this because the more they list people as having died from COVID the fatter the government check.
     
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  13. Opulent_Maelstrom

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    Be careful of what you post otherwise @Yen will consider you as conspiranoid spamming yellow press on this thread if such info isn't based on scientific evidence.
    That's what I was told and honestly there are others here freely posting quite yellow things and not being moderated.
     
  14. Dark Knight

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    I don't give a rats furry ass. The virus was created and set loose in the Wuhan lab China, in an attempt at world domination by the Chinese which Fau-Xi contributed to and covered it up. Now they all have something for their heads to explode on.
     
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    #4735 MS_User, Mar 1, 2023
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    how do you know that 100% are you in the intelligence business....where you physically their at the lab when they release the vitus...
     
  16. MS_User

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    thats because everything you have posted here is fake garbage....could that be the reason:rolleyes:
     
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    #4737 Opulent_Maelstrom, Mar 1, 2023
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    Are these manners correct and allowed in this forum?
    This is called aggression on many worlds in this galaxy.
     
  18. gorski

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    Sometimes it's richly deserved, sadly...

    https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...y-about-the-origin-of-the-sars-cov-2-pandemic

    What does the science say about the origin of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic?
    February 28, 20236:18 PM ET
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    Security guards stand in front of the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, China, on Jan. 11, 2020, after the market had been closed following an outbreak of COVID-19 there. Two studies document samples of SARS-CoV-2 from stalls where live animals were sold.

    "Since the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic began three years ago, its origin has been a topic of much scientific — and political — debate. Two main theories exist: The virus spilled over from an animal into people, most likely in a market in Wuhan, China, or the virus came from the Wuhan Institute of Virology and spread due to some type of laboratory accident.

    The Wall Street Journal added to that debate this week when they reported that the U.S. Department of Energy has shifted its stance on the origin of COVID. It now concludes, with "low confidence," that the pandemic most likely arose from a laboratory leak in Wuhan, China.

    The agency based its conclusion on classified evidence that isn't available to the public. According to the federal government, "low confidence" means "the information used in the analysis is scant, questionable, fragmented, or that solid analytical conclusions cannot be inferred from the information."

    And at this point, the U.S. intelligence community still has no consensus about the origin of SARS-CoV-2. Four of the eight intelligence agencies lean toward a natural origin for the virus, with "low confidence," while two of them — the DOE and the Federal Bureau of Investigation — support a lab origin, with the latter having "moderate confidence" about its conclusion."

    The only ones insisting in a rather "hard" manner it's the Chinese conspiring - are the Amuricans conspiring for yet another war, this time with China... Heaven help us.;..
     
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  19. MS_User

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    dont even go their because he made a statement with a attitude and arrogance like he was a witness to it....well why doesnt he shows use the hard evidence like pictures, video.....ahh but thats right he was never there.
     
  20. Opulent_Maelstrom

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    This does not entitle you or anyone to respond with aggression and insults.