"Your" last. You need to admit being a flat "aut" joke and a fake human yourself. To admit you think "your" smart enough while I know for sure you are not. "Theirs" a fine line between smartass and stupid.
NO vaccine works at 'DNA level' as you might think. Vaccination never changes the genome in order to protect. We are talking here about immunology, not genetic engineering. The immune system, though, has an inherited genome based part. It depends on your ancestors. The other part is 'learned by living'. It mostly depends on your childhood and which infections you went through. You mainly train your t-cells by that. It's long term related to human lifespan. And the next part is specific (antibodies). It leads to a temporary immunity to a certain defined 'pathogen'. Antibody levels usually decline soon....human body stops producing them after recovery. Those vaccinations which lasts 7 or even more years do work, because you have still a very good protection at low antibody levels. This highly probably does NOT apply to SARS-CoV2, because a high viral load needs a high amount of antibodies. Actually no vaccination ever before has worked well at respiratory related infections which come with a high viral load! All three parts are representing your individual immune defence. A certain (t)-cell might die, but the 'content of learning' is preserved! Cells do communicate very well! Very simplified: -innate basic immunity (genome based). -cell mediated immunity. Trained t-cells due to infections in childhood / life. Also their cross-immunity. -humoral immune response. Specific antibodies right after recovery of infection.
You clearly can notice that COVID-19 vaccination is a political issue and sadly not based on scientific reason! https://apnews.com/article/uk-gives-first-covid-19-vaccine-doses-719288c35d8ef8815b56b1c9c5fff24c This is simply wrong! Those are viewed differently because they are Chinese / Russian vaccines! They are as (un)safe as the one from BioNTech. All them have telescoping Phases! The 'end' of Phase III is by far sooner than usual and freely determined. The Chinese have even more people vaccinated far sooner in November already: About one Million compared to 43,000 of BioNTec. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...eople-experimental-covid-vaccine-says-company Unbelievable! No reason, no objective way of thinking. People get fooled to a large amount. Pointless assumptions about different vaccines. Prejudgment! What's wrong with those people?!? BTW: All the best for you, Margaret Keenan.
@ ' vacines ' ...... from international news channels today ---- > The vacine being distributed at the moment was said to be 70 % effective . Then a small part of the tests were said to be 90 % - 94 % effective . That change came because the vacine manufakturer made a mistake in the tests ......... wich doesnt inspire confidence . The BBC news said that everyone must have the vacine or it wont work . . Other sources say that at least 70 % of the world population must be vacinated for it to be effective . How will we reach that 70 % ........ with force ? International news channels say that it will take at least three years for everyone to be vacinated . The news says that people with alergys shouldnt get vacinated .
Even more simplified: Don't mess with this delicate immune system created by whatever you believe but man. Don't mess it with man-made vaccines. No need to. Think about arrogance...
Another question ---- > Can people that have been vacinated still be carryers and infect other people ?
Yes.....I would wait generally.....why should I play guinea pig for their Phase IV? Those percentages are a race without real scientific background. They suggest the closer to 100% the better. But you only get a valid answer to your question after several years of experience. Anything else is vague! For now they present a simple relation: You divide the amount of infected people who have got the real vaccine (verum) by the amount of those who were infected but who have got placebo (just like water). And the data originate from the vaccine maker themselves for now! Example: Pfizer / BioNtech 43,000 participants at Phase III Only 170 of all them got COVID-19 anyway. (This is a very vague and thin dataset)! 162 of them got no real vaccine (placebo group) 8 got the real vaccine but got positive anyway ! 8/162*100% = 4.938% who showed that it has failed. Now you know why they say It's more than 95% effective (100%-4.938% = 95.06%) See above. For sure if you belong to those 4.938% Maybe it even does only prevent to get sick. The people of the study hardly meet each others. So we still do not know at all if you could spread the virus. Even though they say it's 95% efficacity it is NOT really.
External peer review of the RTPCR test to detect SARS-CoV-2 reveals 10 major scientific flaws at the molecular and methodological level: consequences for false positive results https://www.researchgate.net/public...level_consequences_for_false_positive_results What the hell!!! This is the publication that put the world down on its knees... https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.25.3.2000045 Retraction request letter to Eurosurveillance editorial board https://cormandrostenreview.com/retraction-request-letter-to-eurosurveillance-editorial-board/ All sanitary measures taken by many countries around the world are WRONG, to say the least. As a consequence of such results made by Christian Drosten and gang, we are in lockdowns, wearing face masks/muzzles, social distancing and a lot of aberrations under this new subnormality. So for me this is a conspiracy vs humanity.
Guess how I felt! It really has hurt. But no. People told me I have no clue and I am a corona denier therefore..and I would downplay corona. Every scientist who knows the very basics of diagnostics and PCR tech. can look through it! Even I can! But most of them scientists are quiet!!! What a wuss! And Drosten sucked at swine flu already... Never saw such a mess that has been 'established' ! Only two of many posts about the PCR-mess I quote myself again...
My daily contribution. Compare those values (again) to the privately announced side effects. They only talk about a few percent! How can they officially post on the Pfizer site that the highest percentage is 3.8%??? They lie!!!! https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2773790 Severe COVID-19 and finally my invitation for the authors to differentiate. It's all about immune system...who knew? https://www.medscape.com/viewarticl...scpedit&uac=329093HZ&impID=2727479&faf=1#vp_1 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6515/eabd4585
---- > Drosten warnt vor Pandemie-Potenzial: Dieses Virus ist ansteckender als Coronavirus Der Virologe Christian Drosten ist sich sicher: Neben dem aktuellen Coronavirus hat ein anderer Virenstamm hohes Pandemie-Potenzial. Außerdem sei eine Ansteckung womöglich tödlicher als eine Erkrankung an Covid-19. https://www.infranken.de/ratgeber/g...irus-pandemie-covid-19-virenstamm-art-5123456
MERS is old.. Drosten needs fictions about pandemics and fear of people to 'be' somebody. AKA to remain in headlines. If you know his life you know how frequently he was wrong. He's plain career-obsessed and actually a bad scientist. Never objective, always overdoing... You can clearly notice that...if he's talking about a 'new' virus it is always worse than before. He's been utterly wrong at H1N1 and it comes very handy for him that his own PCR test 'confirms' that he was right with COVID-19.
I think all those who are denying that this disease is highly contagious are very, very bad... whatever their profession... Everyone who doesn't understand what those numbers mean in hospitals and medical centres is a nutter!!! The numbers are undeniable! Period! They may not be perfect but let's not allow ourselves not to see the wood for the trees!!! Quibble with ratios all you want but it is a pandemic and plenty of people are getting infected, some are seriously ill, some long term, some die when they wouldn't otherwise! Did you know that....? Pfizer vaccine - there are some indications - does not stop you from getting infected, So, you just don't get ill but - even if you are asymptomatic ==> you can be contagious and spread the disease! This is rather dangerous, as well, unless everybody gets vaccinated! Oxford vaccine - there are some indications now - will stop you from getting infected in the first place! Guess which one I'd like to be "really working"...
@ people that take themselves to seriously ---- > >Yen said: He's plain career-obsessed and actually a bad scientist. >Ha! First bad human then bad scientist lol For me looking at the world is like looking at a village meeting in a fellini style asterix and obelix film ........ the village bard morrissey gagged and tied to a tree .......... the soldiers / sontarans in a group and it doesnt matter what happens their answer to everything is ....... ' Napalm , magnet mines and ground to air missiles ' ......... the ju ju priests in their carnival costumes with their god in a dark corner with their backs to the wall ......... and right at the back a group of very small people in white coats desperatly trying to get attention jumping up and down all their lives so that they can see over everyone elses shoulders ......... trying to stand in the middle .......... finaly being taken seriously .......... shouting aids / ebola / bubonic plauge ............. trying to sell bats blood ....... and sterilise the whole universe ........ telling us we have to wear hazmat suits for the rest of time ........ or we wont go to heaven , santa wont come and we wont get the 37 virgins ........