1. intro

    intro MDL Member

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    I'm glad it works for some people but I see no reason not to follow the developers recommendation To each his own I guess
     
  2. MSMG

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    The next build will be locked down to images without updates, may be that will stop people from following their own order and later complaining when it breaks the update or any OS functionality.

     
  3. Gunmicha

    Gunmicha MDL Novice

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    Just to clarify, since people interpreted my previous comment wrongly. I did my test using those steps I mentioned before MSMG suggested the correct steps. I've been using the correct steps ever since. If it means that the world would fall down on me, then so be it.
     
  4. intro

    intro MDL Member

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    Msmg I removed all windows apps on a 1903 image(18362.1) and everything seemed fine
     
  5. intro

    intro MDL Member

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    .Even though its not supported I played around with some other things. I removed all windows and system apps and everything seem fine on the surface except one thing---sfc repaired syncsettings.dll. I don't know if me testing likes this would help you at all but I thought I would give it a shot.
     
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    #10586 MajkelP, May 10, 2019
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    Could you please explain how?

    Have you used this tutorial ?

    MSMG ToolKit
     
  7. intro

    intro MDL Member

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    That's what I used.Took a long time to figure out how to do it properly
     
  8. intro

    intro MDL Member

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    Actually that isn't the tutorial I used only because I saw it too late but I'm sure it works fine.
     
  9. MSMG

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    Thanks for testing out, did you used the WU? did it went fine.

     
  10. MSMG

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    Yes, since I have added the v1903 as a supported build in the build validation check, it allows to remove the components but currently only Windows Apps have been coded fully to support v1903, other components needs changes to support v1903.

     
  11. Feartamixg

    Feartamixg MDL Addicted

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    So you are telling me to change from method 1 to method 2?
    Extract ISO (1 > 3)

    Select source (1 > 1) (also mount boot and recovery images)

    Integrate Win32 calculator (3 > 3 > B)

    Apply updates (3 > 4 > 2 > 1 > 3)

    Cleanup (6 > 1)

    Remove all metro apps (4 > 1 > 1 > 8)

    Remove Onedrive, People, Connect, Skype (4 > 1 > 2 > H/J/K/P)

    Remove Store, Xbox, Game bar, Xbox ID (4 > 1 > 3 > 1/5/6/7)

    Cleanup (6 > 1)

    Tweaks for Task View, App Downloads, Photo Viewer (5 > 5 > 2/4/7)

    Apply changes to image (6 > 2)

    Rebuild (6 > 1)

    Convert WIM to ESD (2 > 4)

    Make ISO (7 > 1)
    Extract ISO (1 > 3)

    Select source (1 > 1) (also mount boot and recovery images)

    Integrate Win32 calculator (3 > 3 > B)

    Cleanup (6 > 1)

    Remove all metro apps (4 > 1 > 1 > 8)

    Remove Onedrive, People, Connect, Skype (4 > 1 > 2 > H/J/K/P)

    Remove Store, Xbox, Game bar, Xbox ID (4 > 1 > 3 > 1/5/6/7)

    Cleanup (6 > 1)

    Apply updates (3 > 4 > 2 > 1 > 3)

    Tweaks for Task View, App Downloads, Photo Viewer (5 > 5 > 2/4/7)

    Apply changes to image (6 > 2)

    Rebuild (6 > 1)

    Convert WIM to ESD (2 > 4)

    Make ISO (7 > 1)
     
  12. intro

    intro MDL Member

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    Windows update updated some of my drivers, cu etc and my printer. Just like in any other successful tests I've done
     
  13. intro

    intro MDL Member

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    Ya method 2 is the recommended way
     
  14. boo123

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    Can the toolkit or if anyone knows if its possible to pre-integrate custom apps to our choosing, similar to how NLite works but we just add our own to install. Always curious because I do clean installs every year and its a hassle reinstalling my most used apps.
     
  15. Feartamixg

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    @MSMG - can you please confirm that this method is okay to use and I am doing cleanup at the correct place?
     
  16. AeonX

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    Method 2 seems appropriate except for the cleanup order. It is only necessary after the integration/installation of updates to remove/compress old files that have been replaced by the updated ones. It may be recommended to do the cleanup after removing components for some other reason I do not know for sure but it would be a test anyway to know if the cleanup will work properly after removing components.

    So I would change the order to this:

    Extract ISO (1 > 3)

    Select source (1 > 1) (also mount boot and recovery images)

    Integrate Win32 calculator (3 > 3 > B)

    Remove all metro apps (4 > 1 > 1 > 8)

    Remove Onedrive, People, Connect, Skype (4 > 1 > 2 > H/J/K/P)

    Remove Store, Xbox, Game bar, Xbox ID (4 > 1 > 3 > 1/5/6/7)

    Apply updates (3 > 4 > 2 > 1 > 3)

    Cleanup (6 > 1)

    Tweaks for Task View, App Downloads, Photo Viewer (5 > 5 > 2/4/7)

    Apply changes to image (6 > 2)

    Rebuild (6 > 1)

    Convert WIM to ESD (2 > 4)

    Make ISO (7 > 1)
     
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  17. Feartamixg

    Feartamixg MDL Addicted

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    Thank you, I have tried your method and I am able to confirm that SFC does not produce any errors.

    The following files were used:
    ISO: 17763.1.180914-1434.RS5_RELEASE_CLIENTENTERPRISE_VOL_X86FRE_EN-GB.ISO
    SSU: windows10.0-kb4493510-x86_9e3f2ba44fbf4f486ee3d57427b735c736459873.msu
    CU: windows10.0-kb4495667-x86_2386026b4c996a648819651515c4b66067a9db00.msu
     
  18. MSMG

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    Since I do test with a plain image without updates, I had to use the cleanup image twice once before and once after the component removal otherwise the cleanup image would give error.

    But if you integrate updates then you can use the cleanup image only once before applying the image.

     
  19. Feartamixg

    Feartamixg MDL Addicted

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    If you are happy with the below method, then I shall use this for future RS5 images.
    Extract ISO (1 > 3)

    Select source (1 > 1) (also mount boot and recovery images)

    Integrate Win32 calculator (3 > 3 > B)

    Remove all metro apps (4 > 1 > 1 > 8)

    Remove Onedrive, People, Connect, Skype (4 > 1 > 2 > H/J/K/P)

    Remove Store, Xbox, Game bar, Xbox ID (4 > 1 > 3 > 1/5/6/7)

    Apply updates (3 > 4 > 2 > 1 > 3)

    Cleanup (6 > 1)

    Tweaks for Task View, App Downloads, Photo Viewer (5 > 5 > 2/4/7)

    Apply changes to image (6 > 2)

    Rebuild (6 > 1)

    Convert WIM to ESD (2 > 4)

    Make ISO (7 > 1)
     
  20. rwayboy

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    Have you by any chance tried this on an x64 image as well?