When will Windows 32-bit be discontinued?

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  1. lewcass

    lewcass MDL Senior Member

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    Only if you got a ton of stuff starting when windows does. Makes me question your "Guru" status. :g:
     
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  2. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Standard forum status only depends on the quantity of posts, not the quality of the posted content ;)
     
  3. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    What have I done... I'm mebi sorry. :p

    It's not only the confusion John Doe experiences if he wants to find out where the missing hard disk space from his brand new 2TB HDD has been gone. Windows shows much less, so it must be broken.
    The thing actually continues with ISPs advertising in Mbits/s and not in MBytes/s. So John's new Internet connection will provide only ~12.5MByte/s.
     
  4. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    It wasn't really a mystery :D You only unnecessarily managed to get a thread go nuts and totally of-topic because of the i in GiB ;)
     
  5. cuteee

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    When I login win10 1803 it takes one second. In winXP it can take 5 seconds at least. I know what I'm saying.

    Take the life easily.
     
  6. lewcass

    lewcass MDL Senior Member

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    wow, 4 seconds, you must really be in a hurry.
     
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  7. cuteee

    cuteee MDL Guru

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    It's annoying. I get used to one second.
     
  8. Yen

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    I think there are more different reasons why 1KB = 1024.

    I want to mention again that it is scientifically (maths) wrong at first place. There are SI units (Système international d'unités) which are mandatory. They are metric factors and powers of 10.
    Kilo IS 1000!
    Mega IS 1000000

    This means one has to introduce new prefixes which they did with Ki (1024) as powers of 2.

    The new introduced prefixes are uncommon to most humans, though
    All that led to the remaining error defining Kilo=1024.

    What's making this even more complicated:

    SSD/HDDs are advertised using powers of 10
    RAM uses powers of 2

    A 128 GB SSD has in fact 128000000000 bytes sometimes even a little bit more. This one here has 128033218560.

    A 1GB RAM bar has in fact 1GiB means 1073741824 bytes, though.

    Linux reports a 128 GB HDD as 128GB and one GB of RAM as 1.07.

    Windows would report it as 119.2 GB and "one" GB as 1.00 GB RAM

    HDDs are not sold less as advertised. It's windows reporting them less. The same applies to RAM. If you buy 16GB RAM you actually buy 16GiB RAM which is more (17179869184)
     
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  9. Feniksrising

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    Yeah apparently a lot of people care what windows looks like. Me? Not so much. Control panel clashing with settings doesn't keep me up at night.
     
  10. lewcass

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    #51 lewcass, Jun 28, 2018
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    Who gives a crap if the logon screen dont match the theme. I will toggle with changing a themes colour a bit, a ui speed up tweak here and there but i got way more important crap to worry about. the only things that keep me up at night are insomnia and a full bladder :haha:

    Substance over style any day. A turd is a turd, i dont worry about polishing it. :biggrin5:

    And the older i get the less i give a fig. :D
     
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  12. AveYo

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    #53 AveYo, Jul 1, 2018
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    Anti-consumer marketing bulls**t. A perfect analogy would be that a decade from now, when the water shortage hits,
    and greedy companies will introduce the 1L bottles of crystallized water, mentioning 1L=1'000mg- you will in fact receive only 920ml of water (or even less)..


    Data rate - it's fine to measure in bits/kilobits/megabits/gigabits - because that's how technology works. You can send 2bits/s over the wire.
    Even hard disks have data rates aka interface transfer speed like SATA III 6Gbit/s (effectively around 4.8 Gbit/s because just like in network, there is overhead for reliability).

    Storage size
    - you can't store 2bits in any file system! (excluding past experiments with reduced coverage such as 6bit alpha-numeric only chars)
    The smallest unit of data you can store is 1 byte, comprised of 8 bits, that usually encodes one character (ext-ascii, or a half for utf8 / quarter for unicode).
    Sure you can manipulate bits in storage via binary files, but you can't have one file with 3 bits, and another with 4 bits to consume a total of 7 bits - it will actually consume 2 bytes (2 x 8 bits).
    And you have to consistently use it upwards, and not arbitrarily write on your overpriced device that 1GB=1'000'000'000bytes because it sells better than 953.674MB..
    But HDD manufacturers got away with it (it's handy when you have IEC commissioners as shareholders / in your pockets), instead of being fined. Baise le français!
    Before this madness, there were sectors, and CHS, and LBA. It actually meant something mathematically.

    The fact that Microsoft did not give in to this is admirable.
     
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  13. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    But when will x86 windows be done with? :thinking:
     
  14. pf100

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    I predict that it will be a long time from now. 2040 maybe.
     
  15. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    ;)
     
  16. as long as windows os and basic applications minimum ram requirement is 1 or 2 GB, manufacturers would keep making low powered cheap devices for basic use, and 32 bit will not die.
     
  17. lewcass

    lewcass MDL Senior Member

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    If basic devices run ARM then you dont need x86(64) to run basic emails browsing and video.
     
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  18. joluboga

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    Shouldn't that be 2048, though?
     
  19. pf100

    pf100 Duct Tape Coder

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    Yep. It'll be 2048. :)