Windows Update MiniTool

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  1. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    Wasn't WUMT developed to give the user control over what updates he/she wants to be installed and not decided by MSFT?
     
  2. ch100

    ch100 MDL Addicted

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    Please be nice to Woody.
    This is what he has to say about MDL and the work done here :)

    askwoody.com/2017/the-last-word-on-the-win7-update-scan-speedup-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-114378
     
  3. ch100

    ch100 MDL Addicted

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    I think you misread my original post.
    It is good as is, I just made a suggestion to make it more intuitive.

    Check this example.
    If you hide let's say the January 2017 Monthly Rollup, then the next best in line would be the December 2016 Monthly Rollup.
    With Windows Update, the December 2016 Monthly Rollup is not normally shown if not installed, but the January 2017 is shown.
    But when hiding the January update, then the December update is offered at the next scan only and not November, October and so on.

    With WUMT, January is normally offered, but when hiding January, at the next scan, the other updates lower in the chain are not offered, unless the user ticks "Include superseded". In that case though, all superseded are offered, which is normal behaviour.

    I don't know if I made myself clear, the idea is that by not offering the highest available in the chain as indicated by the supersedence with the Include superseded not ticked, the user would not know that there is something missing, unless going through the catalog and going through all superseded.

    Note: If installing ALL superseded presented, the CBS in Windows would know how to select internally, but it is overkill.
    In what I am trying to test here, I am offered 102 updates instead of 38.
     
  4. Enthousiast

    Enthousiast MDL Tester

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    So the "intuitivity" would be WUMT showing the other superseded updates (or at least the previous one) after hiding the most current one, so you don't have to tick the checkbox manually?
     
  5. ch100

    ch100 MDL Addicted

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    I think there are still issues with the registry keys configured, depending on the order of changing the settings in the combo box.
    But this tool is supposed to be used by people who know what they do, or at least for everyone else, they should just leave the Automatic Updates combo box in WUMT as it is when the software is started, where possible.
    I don't think there is much that can be done in this area, except for that functionality to be disabled entirely in WUMT and allow WU to do its job, which in Windows 10 can be done only in Group Policy and even then, not in all editions.
    So I think WUMT it is OK as it is now for that purpose.

    The other thing is that abbodi1486 says that "Include drivers" does not work as expected in Windows 10 and this is correct.
    The setting in WUMT works as intended, sets the correct keys in the registry, but due to Windows 10 behaviour, it does not do what most people believe it does.
    I think the expectations are different than what Microsoft intended and this becomes clear by reading the description of the equivalent Group Policy.
     
  6. ch100

    ch100 MDL Addicted

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    This is what I said, but only one, not all others. :)

    Because by ticking the box, it would show all superseded and not only the next one.
     
  7. Carlos Detweiller

    Carlos Detweiller Emperor of Ice-Cream

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    Possible improvement: Checkbox in the GUI to shutdown the machine once done.

    Downloading and installing updates can be a lengthy operation, and sometimes you have to go to sleep etc. before it's done.
    A commandline option is of no help as it has to be given when the tool is started, and checking the Shutdown box is usually a spontaneous decision.
     
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  8. Necrostercon

    Necrostercon MDL Novice

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    I'll try it on
     
  9. khey

    khey MDL Novice

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    Could you add -onstart command feature (which would be executed right before wumt starts) ?
     
  10. rpo

    rpo MDL Expert

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    Just create a .cmd file with the commands you desire preceding the call to WUMT and you are done.
     
  11. khey

    khey MDL Novice

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    that'swhat i'm doing atm (using wumt wrapper script) but i would like to use wumt integrator.
     
  12. rafer

    rafer MDL Novice

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    You say "Remove the update service using a standard Windows (wusa)". Is it possible stop the service instead of remove it? I stopped it some months ago and I start it only when I want to update my Windows.
     
  13. pf100

    pf100 Duct Tape Coder

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    I'm not paranoid. I just want to do manual updates. Registry changes made by WUMT to allow notifications could become ineffective at the next update. That's why I wrote the wumt wrapper script in my sig. I want full control no matter what Microsoft decides to change in registry options.
     
  14. pf100

    pf100 Duct Tape Coder

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    Question: When you install updates with WUMT, does the -onclose option still execute when WUMT says you need to reboot and you click "OK"?
     
  15. shewolf

    shewolf MDL Senior Member

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    #698 shewolf, Feb 3, 2017
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    Access to this post is restricted!
    You're trying to open the post, written by @shewolf,
    but unfortunately it was marked as a draft (by the user himself or the UFO)
    :laie:
     
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  16. rpo

    rpo MDL Expert

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    Your question can be answered on February 14th (next CU), lol
     
  17. Katinka1

    Katinka1 MDL Novice

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    Hey There :)

    As I understand, the regular WIndows updater wants you to install SP1 (on Windows7 RTM) before it gives you more updates to choose from. Does this mean, with this software, I can download all updates post SP1 without having to install SP1 first?