1. Ace2

    Ace2 MDL Guru

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    OOSU10 + AutoSettingsPS_v.0.3.3 + RemoveApps_0.0.4 for (for live)

    Code:
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            Removing modern applications, including built-in system | Version 0.0.4
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            Specified applications in ListApps.txt:
    
               1. Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_
    
            Excluded applications from removal in ListApps.txt:
    
               1. Microsoft.VCLibs
               2. Microsoft.NET
               3. Microsoft.UI.Xaml
               4. Microsoft.Advertising.Xaml
               5. Microsoft.Services.Store.Engagement
               6. Microsoft.MicrosoftEdgeDevToolsClient
    
            Select the option you want:
    
        [1] = Export list of installed applications | ExportListApps_20210202-233332.txt
    
      [777] = Delete specified applications
    
      [Without input] = Log off
    
       Your choice:
    
     
  2. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    #18362 Yanta, Feb 3, 2021
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    The goal was to never have to touch a PC again, except in the case of emergency like hardware failure or virus.

    Image is customized with MSMG. Pretty much everything is removed. After installation I have a script that is about 8,500 lines long that installs programs, games and does all the tweaks. There are about 1,000 registry tweaks. This entire process is automated from Install of Windows onward.

    Each PC has a login script. This script checks for the existence of another script on the server called "addtweak.cmd" which allows me to apply additional tweaks to PCs without ever having to go near them. All updates are managed via WSUS and all approved updates are installed on PCs automatically. Bottom line, I never have to visit PCs. Which is lucky,, since people won't let me near their PCs anyway.

    Where possible Auto update of all programs is disabled. PCs are refreshed once a year to update to latest versions of programs. Only Windows Updates, game updates and Microsoft Office Updates are allowed. All Windows and Office updates are tested on a test PC for two months before being approved for rollout to all other PCs.

    So if there is a bad CU (and personally I have zero faith in M$'s ability to deliver anything good), then it will be two months before it's rolled out. Hopefully issues are resolved by the time the updates are approved.

    Anyway, I will take another look at AutoSettingsPS, and see if I can use install_wim_tweak in the addtweak script. The next refresh cycle is October 2021.

    So for now, I've just disabled the event log error.
     
  3. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    At the time the image was created v10.1 of toolkit was the current version. So at that time, IIRC the CU was 17763.1131, which would be March 2020.
    PCs were refreshed in October 2020 so the August CU (17763.1397), would have been applied after install. Presently PCs are on Nov 2020 17763.1579.

    I'm happy to stick with v10.1 of the toolkit, or whatever is the last version that supports the use of 17763.1. I had no problems finding 17763.1 LTSC images
     
  4. ingviowarr

    ingviowarr MDL Senior Member

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    #18364 ingviowarr, Feb 3, 2021
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    Nice shot. I had forgotten about RemoveApps_0.0.4 (by westlife).

    EDIT: If I remember right westlife said me RemoveApps is uptaken by AutoSettingsPS that can remove / install apps better.
    And RemoveApps is no longer under development (at time of his message for me).

    O&O ShutUp10
    it's funny tool. But it weak and always had some mistakes and it's incomplete (nothing to compare with AutoSettingsPS power).
    I used to that piece just for fun and may be something intersting / new options provided in the new versions to keep up.
     
  5. ingviowarr

    ingviowarr MDL Senior Member

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    @Yanta
    Well, I'm impressed and shamed. I even can't install Windows 10 on my own main machine 7 years or so...
    I am always pained by that idea and for some reason there is always another urgent thing to do :pardon:.

    install_wim_tweak - the most fresh version I know (Thanks to @MSMG for sharing this)
    I beleive you don't need this, because both tools by westlife are much more powerful.
     
  6. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    I'm basically lazy. Too much other stuff to do. Last thing I want to be doing is manually maintaining 10 PCs constantly.
    Shamed? I don't know why. You're clearly smarter than me.

    Thanks for that. I have it now.

    But I must admit to still being confused. I used the toolkit to remove Cortana. And here we are talking about tools to remove Cortana :)
     
  7. ingviowarr

    ingviowarr MDL Senior Member

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    #18367 ingviowarr, Feb 3, 2021
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2021
    I mentioned install_wim_tweak simply as an example and as one of the potential granular solutions in your case.
    AutoSettingsPS can kill Cortana also, as well. Either as a separate option or as part of a comprehensive set-up.

    P.S. And I think, honestly, I could learn some things from you. Well, we all do it here.
    Remote administation and so deep automated control is really cool thing. Nice!

    -------
    Also see edited message for @Ace2 about RemoveApps.
     
  8. AsaadSoft

    AsaadSoft MDL Addicted

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    should we integrate NET5 or NETFX48 ??!
     
  9. shhnedo

    shhnedo MDL Guru

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    NET5 does not replace NETFX48.
     
  10. ingviowarr

    ingviowarr MDL Senior Member

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    I've read the same before. If I understand right, .NET 5 is a deeply reworked .NET, mostly for developers.
    .NET 4.8 is still the last version for the OS to support those programs that need it.
    Please, correct me, if I'm wrong.
     
  11. shhnedo

    shhnedo MDL Guru

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    If it's gonna contain the 4.8 runtimes required by software, then yes, it will replace 4.8. Otherwise 4.x and 5 is gonna be just like 3.5 and 4.x.
     
  12. ingviowarr

    ingviowarr MDL Senior Member

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    Since .NET5 there won't be .NET Framework any more, because Framework & CORE - they are joined together now.
    The question is which one bundle should install end user to have a necessary support for OS Windows (moreover, .NET5 now is multiplatform thing).
    Because I don't want install a full bundle for developers, but need .NET5 support only.
     
  13. Yanta

    Yanta MDL Senior Member

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    OK, what are we saying here?

    That the removal of Cortana from the image using the toolkit doesn't work so these additional tools are needed to successfully remove Cortana?

    As you can see from the attached, Speech recognition and Cortana was removed. I didn't apply the "Disable Cortana" tweak as @MSMG said it's not needed if Cortana is removed.
     

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  14. WerewolfofWaldorf

    WerewolfofWaldorf MDL Novice

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    I will say, using the Toolkit 11.2 and a fresh 20H2 image has actually solved my problems, as well as trying to keep the folders a little more cohesive on my C:\ drive and keeping sufficient space! (LORD space is a savior). However, I'm still getting nothing in the ISO folder after applying the tweaks to actually burn the image once it's actually made.

    After removing everything I was looking to actually remove in the first place, and applying the tweaks, I had followed previous instructions for going to the "Target" option to Make a DVD ISO image, but nothing is ever in the ISO folder. Am I missing a step?
     
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  16. ingviowarr

    ingviowarr MDL Senior Member

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    I have a different approach to this kind of thing.
    (And everything is fine for me in this case).

    I apply all possible methods to prevent undesirable things from happening.
    Basically, these are the three main parts that complement each other (you know them well):

    1. Removing
    2. GPO (The most important part)
    3. Tweaks (Registry prefs, Services and everything else)

    After all, do the bricks stand on top of each other by themselves? Yes.
    So why do we use cement to build a wall?

    The same way, the "Store" is likely "not existing" in LTSC.
    In fact, that's not true, base elements are existing, but not fully functional.

    So M$ know their default base config and may provide any changes through CU or remote patches (when not restricted).
    Your task is making this completely impossible (using standard restrictions or/and non-standard methods).
    If WU still functional in your OS, then your hacks are OK.

    Since Cortana and Search are closely related in LTSC, I kill both using all available methods.
     
  17. dolivas

    dolivas MDL Junior Member

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    Looking for some help I am trying to integrate these update and for some reason I can not get this one to Integrate KB4598291

    Starting with Windows version 10.0.19042.631

    KB4586858 Integrates
    KB4598291 Does not Integrate (The old KB4598242 Integrated just fine on the last ISO I made.)
    KB4598299 Integrates
    KB4598481 Integrates

    Any thoughts on what I might be doing wrong?

    Thanks
    Dean
     
  18. xCyBx

    xCyBx MDL Senior Member

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