Coronavirus | Discussion

I only see Yen's posts lamenting the lack of genuine science being done to actually know what is an effective treatment/vaccine and what are the most sensible social policies to put in place.

Masks, especially amongst kids at schools, are said to be saturated in bacteria that is possibly doing more harm than good (no science to back that statement)

Social distancing seems like a good idea, but what distance. In the USA/UK it's 2m (6ft) in Australia it's 1.5 meters. That makes a huge difference in the number of indoor seating tables for a someone running a restaurant.
So what is it? 1m, 1.5m, 2m, 0.5m? With recent research showing that small droplets of respired Covid dies in seconds in open air, maybe social distancing itself is "feel-good" theatre with no actual real-world benefit (some science: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0048969721005933).

Right now social policy could consider the science showing that vaccinated humans are incubating far more mutations than unvaccinated and are potentially the breeding ground for the next VOC.
And that same study indicates that the vaccinated are harboring 8% more infectious variants than the unvaccinated (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/med.../F2.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1). (Which implies that to be safe you should be seeking the company of the unvaccinated!)
Not the intended outcome of mass vaccinating into a spiked-protein flu/pandemic, but that's the trouble with science. It lays out the facts and dispels the magical thinking. (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v2)

By the way, an update on my last post (https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/coronavirus-discussion.81224/page-189#post-1717073) showing Germany at 0.77 Delta. That's now old news! Delta is done. Omicron is now the dominant variant in Germany: according to its Robert Koch Institute for infectious diseases--in its weekly report, released on Thursday--it said Omicron accounted for 73.3% of cases compared with 44.3% seven days ago. https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/478220a4c454480e823b17327b2bf1d4

 

Louis Pasteur's virus theory is untenable!
In Germany, Professor Stefan Lankey proved in court that there are no viruses in the world
Show me a virus?
Here's a Virus - but when you look at it, you can see that it's a cesosome, but where is the virus?
Viruses have never been isolated as a pure culture.
This is all a lie that stretches back to the time of Louis Pasteur!

Vaccines are poison!
Killing people.
Urteil des 12. Zivilsenats vom 16.2.2016 - 12 U 63/15 - (juris.de)

Wissenschaft - Heidelberg - Chef-Pathologe pocht auf mehr Obduktionen von Geimpften - Wissen - SZ.de (sueddeutsche.de)

Вакцины от COVID являются самыми опасными вакцинами в истории человечества... Вряд ли (substack.com)

Письмо Штефана Ланка министру здравоохранения Германии (gnm-practice.ru)

 

Get a life mate! Don't spread ridiculous nonsense.

 

Do you want to live happily?
Do you want to be successful?
Do you want to be healthy?
There is one recipe for everything!
Live honestly!
Live for people, not for yourself!
Live for helping everybody!
By living by these rules you will never get sick!
I have never given my children any vaccines for anything!
My grandchildren's children have never had any vaccinations (vaccines) for anything!
I have lived for 77 years and have never been sick or gone to the hospital.
Had cataract eye surgery at the hospital last year - now I see like an Eagle

 

Where can we buy your life-changing, prejudice-shattering, mind-boggling book, Sir?

 

Look a bit deeper, further back. Just don't do it if you suffer from vertigo... cause your head might spin a bit... if you're sensitive like that...

No science and no elementary thinking either. We change them regularly. It's called "hygiene" and "detergent", Sir... They are a part of the so called MEASURES, maybe you have heard of them?

Right, when one can't see the forest for trees... 'Nuff said...

 

More evidence of the low lethality of SARSCoV2 in 2022

Dear Akasha Community Members:

Yesterday I wrote about how what we know as COVID, that is, the illness related to a SARS-CoV2 infection, is comparable to a common cold. I have explained (and given scientific references about it) the evolutionary mechanism that leads to a lower virulence of the virus [that is, the adaptive advantage that, in the context of mass vaccination with vaccines that induce immune responses against Spike of the first variant ( D614G), have variants that, due to their mutations, evade vaccine antibodies and that are less virulent, because they have greater transmission].

He also explained that the fact that its pathogenesis is now understood has helped to lower the lethality of the disease, unlike in the first half of 2020. What was previously treated as if it were a respiratory problem, now (not everywhere, but in many) it is treated as an inflammatory condition, a coagulopathy due to endothelial damage and a dysregulation of blood pressure that usually occurs with secondary bacterial infections.

I kept thinking last night that there is another reason why lethality has decreased (yes, remember that lethality was not so high at the beginning, compared to other infectious diseases, although there are those who mistakenly consider it the deadliest virus of all the times). I'll try to explain myself here:

Many unvaccinated people may have been exposed to the virus last year when strict quarantine and isolation measures were relaxed. Remember that vaccination began in stages in almost all countries at the beginning of 2021, and it took many months for the adult population that so chose to be vaccinated. So, it is plausible to assume that during 2021 many people were exposed to the SARS-CoV2 virus without being vaccinated yet (it does not matter which of the variants it was that infected them). In this scenario, most of those infected would have had mild to moderate symptoms and a few (especially those with comorbidities) could have had severe symptoms and in a low percentage (less than 0.3% of cases, according to Epidemiologist Dr. Ioannidis; https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_first/BLT.20.265892.pdf). This would mean that those infected people naturally activated their innate immune responses and, subsequently, their adaptive immune responses against many different protein fragments of 24 proteins (Spike, Nucleocapsid, Matrix, Envelope, RNA polymerase and 19 non-structural proteins) of the variant of SARS-CoV-2 that has been the one that infected them. They generated antibody- and lymphocyte- and cytotoxic-based responses that are long-lasting and highly effective. Of course, the immune responses do not "shield" you from re-entering that virus or a similar one; it can happen, but you don't develop the disease and it's quickly controlled.

So, now that it is the winter season, and that colds are common (for the purposes of this post, I will only focus on SARS-COV2 as the cause of the picture, but remember that there are many other respiratory viruses that cause common colds) and that various variants circulate (not only Omicron exists on the planet at the moment; see https://covariants.org/per-variant), given the obsessive and almost morbid need to get tested as if there were no tomorrow, many people who do not has any symptoms or has very mild symptoms receives the news of "having COVID". For the purposes of what I am trying to explain, we are going to assume that the tests are reliable and the results are accurate in all cases (this is not the case, but let's imagine that it is). So, the people who are being "positive" are not actually sick, but have been infected (whatever SARS-CoV-2 variant it is) and their immune memory is working, giving them protection against the disease.

Would the same thing happen with the vaccinated; that is, would they also have that protection against the variants that are circulating now? No, since with the exception of those who received inactivated vaccines (Coronavac, for example), they could only have generated specific responses against Spike (and against the spike of the first variant of SARS-CoV-2). And since the gene that contains the information to make Spike is one of the 2 regions of the virus genome that tends to rapidly accumulate mutations, unlike the other regions of the genome (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1567134821004925#bb0195), it is absurd to think that effective protection against this virus (which mutates rapidly; https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.19.444774v1) can be conferred with vaccines that induce responses only against Spike. In other words: the variants that circulate usually have mutations in Spike, but much less so in the other proteins. These proteins are more stable and therefore, the immunity generated naturally gives you immune protection against any variant. In those vaccinated with Pfizer/BioNTech, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Jansen, Sputnik V and Cansino, this does not happen.

So these three things (1: natural selection and selective pressure, 2: better treatments, and 3: broad natural immunity against many virus proteins in many people who were infected in the past year) would then be the perfect recipe for lower virus lethality. SARS-COV2 virus, at least in unvaccinated people who had no natural infection before being vaccinated.

Just this study (not yet peer reviewed) that I share today, shows that the Omicron variant, compared to the Delta variant has 91% less mortality risk (and remember that Delta did not have a higher fatality rate, as I have indicated - with references - in many of the seminars I have given). So, if the authors are correct in their findings, from having a CFR of less than 0.3% globally, now the highly circulating variant of SARS-CoV-2 would have a 0.027% CFR (in other words, they can less than three people die for every 10,000 infected). That is equal to or less than the risk of a seasonal flu with very low mortality.

The study (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.11.22269045v1), entitled "Clinical outcome among patients infected with the SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant (B.1.1. 529) in Southern California," and was funded by the CDC. The authors evaluated 52,297 "Omicron cases" and 16,982 "Delta cases" that occurred between November 30, 2021 and January 1, 2022. In addition to the 91% decrease in case fatality compared to Delta, they also found a 74% reduction in the risk of having to be admitted to an intensive care unit and 53% reduction in the risk of being hospitalized, relative to the risk posed by Delta infections (which were already low at 1.3% of infected cases). None of the Omicron-infected patients required mechanical ventilation and if they were hospitalized (0.5% of cases only) they spent 70% less time in the hospital (a median of 1.5 days vs. 5 days for those infected with Delta).

So, there is increasing evidence showing that SARS-CoV-2 infections are getting milder. Their hospitalization rates are, in fact, lower than for Influenza, which in some years can be as high as 20% (see, for example, this: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31988818/) .

I hope that what I share helps to calm fear, dialogue with him, and convince him that, especially in the unvaccinated (in another post I will talk about what could be happening with the vaccinated), there is no reason to be worried about getting infected now from SARS-CoV-2. Evolution and the immune system are doing "what they know how to do". Have a nice and free day, Karina AW

https://t.me/akashacommunity/1023

 

Have you seen a 5-10 year old kid's mask after having lunch or playing on the playground (at schools that allow kids to play on playgrounds)?
Great! Lets run every schools multiple washmachines constantly and hope they have a roof filled with solar-panels. And fill the near-by river with run-off detergent. Or how about filling the worlds land-fills/oceans with disposible masks? For what purpose? Backed by what science?
Study after study (especially recent ones) are slowly disassembling the whole "vaccinate-everyone" narrative.
It might take a series of fresh elections in the Democracies. Autocracies can, of course, just "flip-a-switch" and say "we never said that everyone must be vaccinated" and anyone that disagrees or attempts to recall the past will just have their attitude-adjusted after a few years at a "re-education" camp.

 

SF, you might also want to learn how to qualify your sentences carefully and thoughtfully...

Yen, nope, you were adamant that this is what the numbers mean - since it is so much lower (mortality rate) in C-19 than the flu....

Btw, who were the fools who suggested that Omicron in only milder in SA?!? I certainly haven't - I said that SA population is younger, they are currently in Summer, living outdoors etc.

 

It makes total sense and is, as far as I understand, backed up by the San Francisco Bay Area study.
I just happened to click again on the studies preliminary link and it is now peer-reviewed and was properly Published 5 days ago on 10 January 2022.
[Nature Microbiology doi: 10.1038/s41564-021-01041-4] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-021-01041-4
Full PDF https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-021-01041-4.pdf
I have some understanding about the mutation distribution between naive and vaccinated immune systems.

What I'm still maybe slightly confused about is where is--for example--Alpha today?
If a a human is exposed to SARS-CoV-2 today, what are lineages that are actually there? Everything?
Here's what I hope is a good question:
When they test people in a counrtry with Omicron, the vaccinated or naïve immune systems are now dealing super successfully with all the linages except the new Omicron lineage and so that is why it shows up as dominant. But in reality, all the prior linages are still there as well?
I think my confusion comes from thinking of viruses as self-reproducing animals, when in reality they need the machinery of our cells to reproduce. So yes, all prior linages are around, but only the ones able to get past our immune system and reprogram our cells actually show up in the tests.

This is what confused me. The Pie chart from the San Francisco Bay Area study shows humans expressing a whole cocktail of linages from the 1 February to 30 June 2021 time-frame.
Pie charts showing the distribution of SARS-CoV-2 variant lineages in fully vaccinated and unvaccinated cases

 

Probably the most important question I have:

Does anyone have any new safety evidence for NVX-CoV2373 vaccine (Novavax)?
I've seen this study from September 23, 2021 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2034577

Is it any safer than the far more common BNT162b2 mRNA or mRNA-1273 vaccines?

Really would like to know!

 

Thank you so much!
I would really appreciate whatever insights you can share.

Thank you also for your detailed explanations. It's helping my logic processes and reactivating dormant brain cells where I stored-away information from Bio-chemistry/Human biiology classes. A, G, C, T, and U. Yes, it's all there. We even studied indels and used a primitive sequencing machine, but I only took a single Bio-chemistry course and never applied it in a professional capacity.

It would be very good news indeed--and probably personally gratifying for you--if (as you said inyour Dec 7th post) "[Omicron] could become endemic and every human will be infected with it getting natural immunity while getting only mildly sick."

 

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/dow...iQ-lYmjSbDZs4JUz2pAVnNPC5T8cp70Y5WoBs8-d3Rn9E

1. Omicron spreads swiftly — more people infected more quickly in NYC than any other point in the pandemic. o Omicron became the dominant variant in NYC within five weeks after it was first detected. For comparison, the delta variant took 20 weeks to become the dominant variant.

2. Although the average severity of emergency department visits for COVID-19-like illness (CLI) was lower for omicron than prior waves, an increase in emergency department visits still predicted an increase in hospitalizations.

3. Overall, a smaller percentage of reported cases were hospitalized compared to the delta wave (about 2% versus about 5%), but there were more total hospitalizations due to significantly greater case numbers. In NYC, those most likely to be hospitalized are people who are not vaccinated, and a higher proportion of Black New Yorkers and people age 75 and older were hospitalized.
o New Yorkers who were not vaccinated were more than eight times more likely to be hospitalized compared to New Yorkers who were fully vaccinated, early in the omicron wave.
o Differences in health outcomes among racial and ethnic groups are due to long-term structural racism, not biological or personal traits.2

4. About half the proportion of hospitalized patients have required intensive care thus far in the omicron wave compared to the peak of the winter 2020-21 wave (about 11% versus about 20%). However, the volume of hospitalized COVID-19 patients has surpassed what was seen last winter and the number in the intensive care unit (ICU) is approaching last winter’s peak.

5. Overall number of people in the hospital (for all reasons) has remained stable even as more people have been hospitalized due to COVID-19 illness, conditions worsened by COVID-19 infection, or those hospitalized for other reasons but found to have COVID-19.
o Although the overall surge in COVID-19 patients has not reached the level of March 2020, hospitals and other health care facilities are also strained by staff outages related to COVID-19 isolation requirements and other staffing challenges. Total beds available is just one indicator of strain on the health care system and may not adequately reflect the overall strain on the health care system including increased patient-to-staff ratios which can impact the quality of patient care

6. Total pediatric hospital census was stable to slightly lower during the omicron wave, though pediatric hospitalizations due to or with COVID-19 increased significantly.
o Children who were not vaccinated were significantly more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared to all children.

 

Two things:

Firstly, Yen criticised the variety of qualified statements earlier ("might", "likely to" etc.), as if we could have any other ones in this regard - and then he does the same thing above ("could", he said)...

That said...

Secondly, he states something that is not qualified at all and rather foolish, I would say: he writes "...every human will be..." - which is clearly at odds with the evidence we now have, as in my previous post, which shows clearly that not all humans react the same way to this pathogen...

I think slightly more careful manner of "expressing ideas" would do us good here, given the tons of nonsense flying round, getting the old emotions way too high for our own good... Less inflammatory statements would be good to see!

 

DR. DAVID MARTIN INTERVIEWED BY DR. REINER FUELLMICH | GERMAN CORONA INVESTIGATIVE

https://www.bitchute.com/video/Fyoh6Px2bRuv/

https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/...ack-as-2002-concerning-sars-cov-2-coronavirus

Spanish transcription: https://extramurosrevista.com/la-larga-y-deliberada-preparacion-del-sars-cov-2-y-sus-vacunas/

English transcription: https://drive.google.com/file/d/19o1BeQa6z9XD58GkYE1e-qiiNbnr5wTz/view